About the same year, (1842) there lived at Pinner, a family named Grimshaw. There was father, mother, three sons and a daughter. The old folks were very kind and would often invite us to their house at night to spend a pleasant evening in singing. The sons were in our singing class. James was a bass singer, Robert a tenor, and William sang Alto. Mary stayed at home with her parents. They all attended the Ring's Row preaching room. The Grimshaw’s [sic] had some cousins at Accrington named Jellot. The old folks were farmers and they had four or five sons, all being singers. They frequently came to sing with us, then we had to visit them in return.